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Mauser HSc
TypeSemi-automatic pistol
Place of originNazi Germany
Service history
In service1940–1945
Used byNazi Germany
France
WarsWorld War II, First Indochina War, Burundian Civil War[1]
Production history
DesignerAlex Seidel
Designed1935–36
ManufacturerMauser
Produced1940–1977
No. builtOver 334,000[2]
VariantsHSc Super
Specifications
Mass700 g (1 lb 9 oz) unloaded
Length152 mm (6.0 in)
Barrel length86 mm (3.4 in)
Cartridge.32 ACP (7.65×17mm Browning SR)
.380 ACP (9×17mm Short)
ActionBlowback
Muzzle velocity290 m/s (950 ft/s) with 7.65×17mm[3]
Effective firing range40 metres (44 yd)
Feed system8-round detachable box magazine (.32 ACP)
7-round detachable box magazine (.380 ACP)
SightsFixed iron sights

The Mauser HSc is a 7.65mm pistol made in Nazi Germany during World War II and post-war. The designation HSc stood for Hahn Selbstspanner ('self-cocking hammer') Pistole, third and final design 'C'. Production was continued in 1945–46 during the French occupation and, later, from 1968 to 1977 by Mauser. It features a semi-exposed hammer, double-action trigger, single-column magazine, and a spring surrounding the barrel.

The Mauser HSc was originally intended as a commercial pistol. It competed with the contemporary German Walther PPK and PP and Sauer 38H for police and military use. It was procured initially by the navy (Kriegsmarine) soon followed by the Army and police. HSc pistols used by the Luftwaffe or Waffen-SS were procured from Army and police stocks.

Production[edit]

Production began in late 1940 at serial number 700,000, as an extension of the serial number range of the Mauser Model 1934 pistol, a much more difficult pistol to manufacture. The early pistols have well-made wooden grips, and are highly polished and richly blued. The first 1350 pistols were made for the commercial market and, because of the low positioning of the grip screws, have become known as the 'Low Grip Screw' variety. Approximately half of this initial production was purchased by Nazi Germany's Kriegsmarine. All these early low grip pistols are today very rare. At approximately serial number 701345 the grip screws were relocated upward to a more central and sturdier position.

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The German Army began HSc procurement with an initial order for 3,000 pistols in early 1941, beginning with serial number 701,345, and, intermittently, ending about #712,000. These pistols are marked with an Eagle/655 inspection stamp on the left rear trigger guard web, a factory firing proof Eagle/N on the right rear trigger guard web and at the front of the right slide. Also a small Army Test Proof stamp was stamped on the left rear grip tang. Subsequent orders were placed by the Army throughout the war, along with pistols procured by the Police and Kriegsmarine, with almost 24% of the total production of 252,000 pistols going to the commercial market.

A second Army variation of about 5,000 pistols consisted of pistols whose serial numbers ranged, intermittently, from about 712,000 to about 745,000. These have an Eagle/655 WaA (Army acceptance) on the left rear trigger guard web and the Eagle/N firing proofs on the right rear trigger guard web and on front of right slide, but have no proof mark on the left rear grip tang. The finish on these pistols is also of the first quality.

The third Army variation of some 4,000 pistols ranged in intermittent serial numbers from about 745,000 to about 790,000. These bear an acceptance mark of Eagle/135 on the left rear trigger guard web and the two Eagle/N firing proofs on the right side. The high quality finish of the earlier pistols starts to decline in this production segment.

The fourth variation consists of 31,000 intermittently numbered pistols from around #790,000 to #886,000. These pistols have an Eagle/135 acceptance and Eagle/N proofs as before. On pistols after #855,000 the left side of the slide now has a three-line device stamped along with the Banner. The polish of these pistols is rougher and the military 'dusk blue' is now in evidence. The cross hatched machining inside the top sight channel is no longer there.

The last variation, of some 32,000 intermittently numbered pistols in a serial number range of about #886,000 to #952,000, has the three-line device on the left side of the slide and bears an Eagle/WaA135 acceptance and the Eagle/N proofs. Beginning in the late #940,000 range some pistols were given black plastic grip panels. The very last pistols, in the #949,500 to #952,000 range, were finished with Mauser's phosphate finish, somewhat similar to the U.S. parkerizing finish used on most M-1 rifles, M-1 Carbines and M1911 pistols. The Mauser phosphate finish is variable in color, from a dark grey to an almost green color. These phosphated pistols are quite rare today and, with Eagle/WaA135 acceptance, are highly desirable to military collectors. The Eagle/WaA135 marks are generally 'right side up' on the early phosphate pistols but 'upside down' on the later pistols. Small parts on many of these very late phosphate pistols are usually a mix of older blued parts and later phosphated parts. HScs with frames and slides of different finishes may exist and would be extremely rare and desirable to military collectors.

Final German World War II production ended with the capture of the Oberndorf area by American troops in late April 1945. After the area was given to the French production resumed for French use and was concluded in 1946.

Military personnel of all ranks not issued sidearms often purchased HSc pistols in the commercial marketplace and carried them in the field. Such commercial pistols often returned with veterans as World War II war souvenirs, often in military proofed HSc holsters.

Distribution of total HSc pistol production (1940–1945):

  • Army (Heer): 137,121 (54.4%)
  • Navy (Kriegsmarine): 27,100 (10.8%)
  • Police (Polizei): 28,300 (11.2%)
  • Commercial (Civil): 59,467 (23.6%)
  • Total: 251,988 (100.0%)

The HSc pistols made by the French in 1945–46 bear an RW proof. Most of these pistols were destined for French forces fighting in the First Indochina War.

Production of high-quality commercial pistols had been resumed at the Mauser factory in Oberndorf from 1968 to 1977. German police units saw the most use of the Mauser HSc, while others were exported primarily to the North American commercial market where they would be available in both blued and nickel finishes.

Walther Ppk 7.65 Serial Numbers

The pistol originally chambered the 7.65 mm (.32 ACP) cartridge, but the majority of Mauser HScs manufactured in the 1970s were chambered in 9mm Kurz (.380 ACP).

The full serial number of each pistol is located on the front of the grip frame, just above the magazine. The last three digits of that serial number are located on the bottom of the chamber (stamped) and the flat panel of the slide just under the muzzle (electropenciled).

The model 'HSc Super,' 'HSc Mod. 80,' or 'SAB-2001 Super' was a variant made by Renato Gamba in Gardone, Italy, under license from Mauser. This pistol was chambered in .32 ACP, .380 ACP and 9×18mm Ultra, and featured a double-column magazine, a recurved trigger guard (on some models), and an 'American-style' magazine release behind and below the trigger guard.

References[edit]

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  1. ^Small Arms Survey (2007). 'Armed Violence in Burundi: Conflict and Post-Conflict Bujumbura'(PDF). The Small Arms Survey 2007: Guns and the City. Cambridge University Press. p. 204. ISBN978-0-521-88039-8.
  2. ^[1] Mauser HSc Production History][permanent dead link]
  3. ^Chamberlain, Peter (1976). Axis pistols, rifles, and grenades. Gander, Terry. New York: Arco. p. 19. ISBN0668040769. OCLC2388349.
  • The Mauser HSc Pistol, Burnham and Theodore, 2008,
  • Mauser Pistolen, Weaver, Speed and Schmid, 2008
  • Axis Pistols in World War II, Jan C. Still, 1989
  • Mauser Pocket Pistols, Roy G. Pender, 1971
  • German Pistols and Holsters 1934-1945, Maj. Robert Whittington 1969

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Serial Number: 1002268

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Year of Manufacture: ca 1937 (According to “Walther”, Vol. II pg. 125, by James Rankin, 7000-10000 Walther PPK’s were made with 7 digit serial numbers prior to the K suffix serial numbers being used, which started in 1938.)

Caliber: .32 A.C.P. (7.65mm Browning)

Action Type: Single or Double Action Semi-Auto with 7 Round Removable Magazine

Markings: The left side of the slide is marked with the Walther “Banner” logo, “Waffenfabrik Walther, Zella-Mehlis (Thur) / Walther’s Patent Cal. 7,65m/m” and “MOD. PPK”. The right side of the slide below the port opening and the barrel at the port opening are marked with a “Crowned N” commercial nitro proof as used prior to 1940. The right side of the frame behind the trigger is marked “1002268”. The right side of the barrel at the muzzle is marked with a “Crown / N” proof. The inside of the slide opposite the port is scratched with “268”.

Barrel Length: 3 5/16”

Sights / Optics: The front sight is a low profile blade fixed to the slide. The rear sight is a “U” groove in a raised boss at the top rear of the slide. The top of the slide has a full length rib, which is serrated to reduce glare.

Stock Configuration & Condition: The grip is a one piece brown checkered plastic with streaks of black that encloses the backstrap. There is a Walther Banner Logo at the top of the grip on each side. There appears to be a short hairline crack at the upper edge of the grip screw on both sides of the grip. The smooth edges of the grip show several light handling marks with two dings in the bottom rear corner on the left side. The checkering shows light wear without mars The grips rate in about Fine condition.

Type of Finish: The finish is blued.

Finish Originality: All Original

Bore Condition: The bore is bright and the rifling is sharp. There is no erosion.in the bore, but there is a tiny tool mark in one of the lands near the muzzle.

Overall Condition: This handgun retains about 87% of its metal finish. There is surface loss at the front of the slide and thinning on the remaining edges of the slide and those of the frame. There are spots of pinprick surface erosion visible in the areas of surface loss at the front of the slide. There are also several light handling marks in the sides of the slide and the trigger guard. The hammer and safety serrations show light wear and the slide serrations and magazine release checkering are sharp. The grips screw is sharp and the markings are clear. Overall, this handgun rates in about Fine condition.

Mechanics: The action functions correctly. This pistol has a slide mounted de-cocker that blocks the hammer. The double action trigger pull is a little stiff and the single action pull is light and crisp. This pistol was not designed with a magazine disconnect, but the slide does lock back on an empty chamber. We did not fire this handgun.

Box, Paperwork & Accessories: This pistol comes with a total of one 7 round blued factory magazine. The magazine is marked with a Walther banner logo and “PPK 7,65 m/m” on the lower left side and has a flat blued floorplate. The magazine shows minimal with two tiny marks in the floorplate. The magazine is in about Excellent condition.

Our Assessment: PPK stood for “Polizei Pistole Kriminal modell” (Police Pistol Detective Model) and was used by the German police detectives (street cops carried the larger PP chambered in .380 A.C.P.). The PPK Model was also very popular in the civilian market. Adolf Hitler committed suicide with a PPK and a PPK was used by the fictional spy James Bond after “M” made him trade-in skeletonized Beretta. The pre-war pistols are considered more collectible than any other period except for those made during the war, and the quality and workmanship on these pistols is outstanding. This Walther Model PPK was made in about 1937. The standard German marking at the time for PP and PPK models was for the use of a six-digit serial number, followed by a letter suffix as necessary. When the PP pistol sequence reached 999,999, Walther switched to a P suffix. But, in the PPK series the six digit numbers transitioned into 7 digit numbers for a short while before the K suffix was adopted. James Rankin, in his book “Walther”, Vol. II, indicates 7000-10,000 were manufactured with 7 digit numbers. This pistol is in Fine condition with about 87% of its original finish remaining. It shows surface loss and pinprick surface erosion at the front of the slide, with thinning on the edges of the slide and frame. There are light handling marks on the sides of the slide and on the trigger guard. The grips are checkered brown plastic with traces of black running through them. The checkering shows light wear without mars. There is a short hairline crack on both sides of the grip at the upper edge of the grip screw, several light handling marks in the left side of the grip and a two dings at the bottom rear left corner. The bore is bright with sharp rifling and a tiny tool mark in one of the lands near the muzzle. This pistol has a de-cocker that blocks the hammer. This is a very collectible pistol, nice looking and correctly marked. This is sure to end up in a collection of high-end pre-war automatics. There were a lot of 6 digit and K suffixed PPK’s made prior to and during WWII, but very few 7 digit serial number guns in comparison.